quinta-feira, 21 de fevereiro de 2013

Richard Dawkins - God Delusion or John Piper - Desiring God?

Richard Dawkins is now seen as a joke figure...
I Believe Richard Dawkins has lost and is now seen by many, even many non-believers, as a joke figure, shaking his fist at sky fairies. 

So what was all that about, then?

I think it was an outpouring of his self-frustration of a personal nature.
Also, because scientific skeptics grow irritating when they become stubbornly unwilling to admit that science doesn't have an answer for everything.
And Dawkins doesn't like Christianity, because Christians pretend to have found an answer in the Bible about God and life after death. 
So he doesn't read the Bible to analyse if what he reads is true or not, but only to find out things that can support is stubbornness against God and Christianity. 
John Piper is Calvinistic, but many Christians from several doctrinal backgrounds Calvinistic or not, agree with Desiring God from John Piper. 
Richard Dawkins In His Book The God Delusion says:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character  in all fiction:
Am I Delusional? 

Jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomanical, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

John Piper's 7 Theses On Why God Is Not a Megalomaniac in Demanding to Be Worshipped:

Yes you are Delusional, man!
"What I am presenting is the nub of what I have been saying over and over for about 25 years. 

This will not be new. 

I hope that your questions about it will help me do better if the Lord gives me a few more years, because this message is close to the heart of what I believe he put me on the earth to say.

Thesis 1

My all-shaping conviction is that God created the universe in order that he might be worshipped with white-hot intensity by created beings who see his glory manifested in creation and history and supremely in the saving work of Christ.

Thesis 2

I am also persuaded that people need to be confronted with how self-exalting God is in this purpose. To confront them with this, I give a quiz:
Question 1: What is the chief end of God? 
Answer: The chief end of God is to glorify God and enjoy displaying and magnifying his glory forever.
Question 2: Who is the most God-centered person in the universe?
Answer: God.
Question 3: Who is uppermost in God’s affections?
Answer: God.
Question 4: Is God an idolater?
Answer: No. He has no other gods before him.
Question 5: What is God’s chief jealousy?
Answer: God’s chief jealousy is to be known, admired, trusted, enjoyed, and obeyed above all others.
Question 6: Do you feel most loved by God because he makes much of you, or because he frees you to enjoy making much of him forever?

Thesis 3

I press on this because I believe that if we are God-centered simply because we consciously or unconsciously believe God is man-centered, then our God-centeredness is in reality man-centeredness. Teaching God’s God-centeredness forces this issue of whether we treasure God because of his excellence or mainly because he endorses ours.

Thesis 4

God’s eternal, radical, ultimate commitment to his own self-exaltation permeates Scripture. [Read Bible Passages in the actual article.] His aim to be exalted glorified, admired, magnified, praised, and reverenced is seen to be the ultimate goal of all creation, all providence, and all saving acts.

Thesis 5

This is not megalomania because, unlike our self-exaltation, God’s self-exaltation draws attention to what gives greatest and longest joy, namely, himself. When we exalt ourselves, we lure people away from the one thing that can satisfy their souls—the infinite beauty of God. When God exalts himself, he manifests the one thing that can satisfy our souls, namely, God.

Therefore, God is the one being in the universe for whom self-exaltation is the most loving act, since love labours and suffers to enthral us with what is infinitely and eternally satisfying, namely, God. Therefore, when God exalts God and commands us to join him, he is pursuing our highest, deepest, longest happiness. 

This is love, not megalomania.

Thesis 6

God’s pursuit of his glory and our pursuit of our joy turn out to be the same pursuit. This is what Christ died to achieve. “Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God” 1 Peter 3:18. When we are brought to God as our highest treasure, he gets the glory and we get the pleasure.

Thesis 7

To see this and believe this and experience this is radically transforming to worship—whether personal or corporate, marketplace or liturgical."

John Piper - Desiring God
JOHN PIPER: http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/conference-messages/why-god-is-not-a-megalomaniac-in-demanding-to-be-worshiped

Please see below my post about the interview the evangelist John Hawley had with Richard Dawkins

Interview with the Archbishop of Atheism!

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